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Wednesday, June 20, 2007

Is There Really Scriptural Validity in Calling Homosexuality a Sin? "Part 2"


Surely God knows what he is doing. I always knew within myself that homosexuality was not to be compared to bearing false witness, stealing, killing, committing adultery etc; you know the 10 commandments in the book of Exodus, chapter 20. Some people like to compare homosexuality to drug addiction; I strongly disagree, there is no comparison. Drugs and alcohol are acquired and in most cases homosexuality is innate. Homosexuality certainly was not included in that list of commandments. I’ve often wondered why.

In the old testament of the bible there were many Mosaic/Leviticus Laws and rituals of sacrificing animals to cover sin/offences of the law. If you were an offender or sinned against one of the many laws (a man lying with another man as with a woman was certainly one of the dozens of offences), it was considered an abomination.

The people lived by the laws and the orders that God gave his servants before God sent his own son Jesus Christ to walk this earth and to become the ultimate sacrifice for sin by his crucifixion on the cross at Calvary to fulfill those laws and rituals. After Christ walked this earth and became the ultimate sacrifice, rose again and ascended to heaven; Jesus Christ then fulfilled all of those laws and rituals and thus there was a new covenant. Becoming believers that Jesus Christ and his sacrifice is the answer for this world today.
Jesus Christ ascended to heaven and now sits on the right hand side of God the father interceding for sinful mankind. So I encourage you to develop a relationship with Christ and live by his principles and standards. Here is the proof:
Galatians 3:10 Indeed, it is impossible to keep the whole Law of Moses anyway, for should one of the most insignificant laws be breached then the whole of the Law of Moses was breached: "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them"
(Gal. 3:13). Something else was needed and that was Christ Himself and a New Covenant establishing the Law of the Spirit: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law"

Please don’t disrespect the sacrifice and accomplishment of Jesus by selecting quotes from the Mosaic/Leviticus laws in order to persecute others.

I can also remember sitting at my home church as a child in Harrisburg, PA listening to our pastor preach against homosexuality; using the book of Romans the 1st chapter, lambasting any hope that I may have had of remaining in right standing with God and not being delivered from those “unnatural mental-emotions” that I so desperately wanted to be delivered from. If you can keep this in mind that for me until adulthood, this battle was purely spiritual, emotional and mental.

The physical and sexual emotions are a by-product or manifestation of the spiritual and mental emotions (just like with heterosexuals). If those spiritual and mental emotions are not handled with proper guidance, love and care, those misguided sexual emotions may lead to unhealthy sexual liaisons which becomes a way of life and develops into a decadent lifestyle that takes the life and joy out of your soul (just like with heterosexuals). Unfortunately with our youth, those physical and sexual emotions are oftentimes taken advantage of by adult sexual predators (just like with heterosexuals) which causes great mental disturbance and the victims sometimes become sexual predators themselves (just like with heterosexuals).

Was Jesus Christ the Son of God aware of “God fearing people who were born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender”? Matthew 19:12
(The words of Jesus) For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. What are eunuchs? http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/contents.htm An interesting study by Malik Faris.


It is so important to read and study the bible in context of the historical climate and the actual story that is occurring. (Please take out the time to read the entire 1st chapter of Romans) The initial part of this letter is written to the saints at Rome, Paul was longing to see and speak with them in order to impart spiritual gifts to make them strong. Paul also proclaimed the wrath of God on the people who knew God for all-of-his wonderful works and miracles that were manifested before them however; they made a concerted decision to snub God and not to worship him. They wanted instant gratification and decided to worship graven images that they shaped with their hands; they began to worship animals and reptiles. So therefore God turned them over to themselves; they lusted after each other and had sex with each other, their genders did not matter. They also lusted after all of the materials things of this world and they received the mentality that goes along with God -haters. Some bible scholars advise that; what Paul was referring to was homosexual temple prostitution. This scripture does not apply to God fearing people who were born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender.

Please read 1st Timothy 1:8 and 1st Corinthians 6:9, these scriptures are also used as divisive tools against God fearing people who were born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender. Both passages contain lists of persons to be excluded from the Realm of God. The interpretation of these passages depends on two Greek words which have always presented a problem for translators. In the King James Version, they are translated "effeminate" and "abusers of themselves with mankind." In the Revised Standard Version, they were combined and rendered homosexuals; however, these are not the Greek words for homosexual, so that translations reflects the scholars' bias. The New International Version illustrates the difference in these two words by translating them "male prostitute" and "homosexual offenders". The Jerusalem Bible uses the terms "catamites and "sodomites". Catamites were youth kept especially for sexual purpose; they were usually paid large sums of money. Neither passage refers to persons of same-sex orientation, but to people who used their sexuality for personal gain.
(Quotes in italics are referenced from
http://www.firstmcc.com/sexuality_bible.htm )
Do you see the trend? The problem is not homosexuality; it is sexual abuse and sexuality used for personal gain.

The bible should not be used as a divisive tool to demonize God’s people who in most cases were born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender. Trying to change those emotions myself are like changing my brown eyes to be blue with man-made contact lenses, they remain brown. Did God make a mistake? Proverbs 3:13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding. Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

God-fearing people who are born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender, are they to live-out all of their days on this earth without expressing their physical emotions? No, I am not talking about having sex with multiple partners and living a decadent life of sex due to not having the capacity to legally marry/state certificate anyone of the same gender, or just being promiscuous. Should that person marry a heterosexual person and ignore their natural, spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender in hopes that God will change their desire (unfortunately, if God chooses not to change your desire, that scenario sometimes leads to living a life of lies and deceit)? God is able to do anything! God knows what he is doing? We sometimes don't trust that he does.
One final scenario, will God honor a commitment of monogamy between 2 God fearing people who were born naturally with spiritual, mental and physical emotions for the same gender? Fornication is sex between unmarried persons that is distinguished from adultery. Marriage is an interpersonal relationship with governmental, social, or religious recognition, usually intimate and sexual, and often created as a vow between God and two individuals. A vow is defined as a promise made to God. A promise to God is the key point; not the legalistic matters and the other traditions. The promise is binding, and so differs from a simple resolution which is a present purpose to do or omit certain things in the future. The examples of marriage in the bible are between a man and a woman, however the bible does not speak against or prohibit same gender monogamous vows or commitments. Fornication does not exist with these ingredients.

Ponder these scenarios and sincerely pray to the Living God of this universe for divine answers and divine peace for your soul through his son Jesus Christ. Jesus had just admonished the people in these certain towns; they witnessed many miracles and still did not believe. These are the words that he spoke: Matthew 11:28 If you are tired from carrying heavy burdens, come to me and I will give you rest. 29Take the yoke I give you. Put it on your shoulders and learn from me. I am gentle and humble, and you will find rest. 30This yoke is easy to bear, and this burden is light.
Samuel

I would love to hear your comments. If you have an experience that you would like to share and you would like to have it posted/featured on this site, email son_of_a_bishop3000@yahoo.com This should be healing and a lot of fun.

14 comments:

Darryl said...

Obviously the jury is still out on this blog as to if "fornication" is wrong.
18 Flee from fornication. Every other sin that a man may commit is outside his body, but he that practices fornication is sinning against his own body.
1Corinthians 6:18

Be attracted to whom you will;men,women,children, dogs or cows. Fornication is a premeditated offense against God and yourself. You choose to lay down with someone.

This issue "is" getting your spirituality aligned with Gods purpose.
17 This, therefore, I say and bear witness to in [the] Lord, that YOU no longer go on walking just as the nations also walk in the unprofitableness of their minds, 18 while they are in darkness mentally, and alienated from the life that belongs to God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the insensibility of their hearts. 19 Having come to be past all moral sense, they gave themselves over to loose conduct to work uncleanness of every sort with greediness.

Ephesians 4:17-19

We need to get out of the mental darkness and stop promoting it. We all know where that leads.

I am pro men Love. Don't get me wrong. But this is exactly what we must learn to do. Not be "indecent". And fornication is just plain indecent. It's damaging emotionally , spiritually, and eventually physically. Does anyone deny this?
4 Love is long-suffering and kind. Love is not jealous, it does not brag, does not get puffed up, 5 does not behave indecently, does not look for its own interests, does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury. 6 It does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. 7 It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails.
1Corinthians 13:4-8

Let's not get it twisted. I will do you no good in the end.
Love your man or men the right way. Appropriate affection and meaningful and open communication. Find an activity of common interest to share. This is how men bond. No pain. No diseases. No broken hearts.

Born Blessed said...

Wow, I didn't feel a lot of love from Darryl's tirade about fleeing fornication and showing love. I thought that this week's posting brought a lot of positive and spiritual answers that will bring peace. I don't see where this posting is promoting fornication. I hope Darryl's diatribe about fornication and love does not take away from this very informative posting which is a blessing.

Born Blessed

darryl said...

To Born Blessed
It's not my "tirade" . The scriptures are there, take a look in your bible.

Samuel Marcus Brown said...

To Born Blessed and Darryl

Thank you for reading my blog.
I am certainly not promoting fornication. What I am doing is strictly out of enlightenment, love and respect for my savior Jesus Christ. I am trying to minister the truth in love to people who are totally misunderstood without beating them with the word. Born blessed, I apologize that you are not feeling the love from Darryl's comments. Darryl, I know that you mean well. I am just trying to create a safe haven for people who are same gender loving to come and be inspired and to be encouraged to grow in God. People that attend most traditional churches get enough of getting beat-up on by the word with "love".

Samuel

darryl said...

I appreciate your comments Sam. I am very glad that I heard from you that you are not promoting "fornication". My comments weren't meant to be disparaging. And if two people commit to giving each other nurturing, unconditional, and affectionate love, that is a beautiful thing. ...Self-control is key.
Thanks for your comment
Darryl

HisLoveCoversMe said...

Regarding this Posting. There is a lot here that one can make a comment about. However, before we comment, we should always consider a few things. The information that we are reading, the source, the person who wrote it and his or her agenda. Maybe I have an unfair advantage to a stranger who is reading this blog because I have first hand knowledge of the heart of this person. I know his goal for this blog, and how happy he is for the readers who are willing to take time to read it. Even if I did not know this person, one thing that is undeniably obvious about this blog, it is very positive and is meant to be an avenue that will lead it's readers to the Christ of the Bible.

We the SLG community need a place of comfort and hope. A place where we are challenged to find out for ourselves what God word is saying and how much we are worth to Him.

I’m sure we all can dissect Scriptures, If we were to do the necessary research. Even in dissecting Scriptures we have to have God's agenda in mind and not our own. We must ask ourselves, by dissecting these Scriptures will this show the SGL community something that is so lacking in our world? “The Understanding and awareness of God’s love.”

I praise God for you my brother. And thank God you have the courage and strength to spread His word.

www.loverofoursouls.blogspot.com

cp said...

Hey Sam-
This is CP, I was very impressed by the blog you forwarded last week. It really blessed my spirit and lifted me up. I had also had those same beliefs, but never took the time to think about it as deep as the reading has forced me to. I really did enjoy that. I will be getting several copies of your book for me and a couple of friends. Thank you so much for sharing that with me. I can't express to you enough how much of a blessing that was for me. Take care and keep praying for me.

Andre said...

Very interesting read! I look at the situation from a Gnostic point of view. That says we come here from our eternal home with mother and father God as well as all the messiahs. We come here with a chart the already has our parents, friends, spouses, lovers, siblings and the like already predestined. We are here to live those charts out to learn for God through our experiences here on earth. We are the experiencing facet of God. God is not our judge. God is unconditional and eternal love. Homosexuality is not a hellfire condemned sin. It is a sexual preference like any other preference in life. Some people like red some people like green. In the end we are all loved and respected by God and we need to learn how to hold each other in the same regard.

James said...

Samuel,
I found this to be very enlightening. You touch upon a lot of issues that need to be addressed in the gay community, especially as they pertain to homosexuality, spirituality and ones personal relationship with Christ!!!!
Keep Up the good work!!!

James Muller

Anonymous said...

First, I'd like to say that I am going through this myself, and what I'm about to say applies to me also. We might be familiar with Leviticus 18:22. Now, it was brought up in the blog that no one can follow the whole law, and that's very true. but how else will we know what God approves of and dissaproves of? That's why we have it in the bible. Since it says that, we shouldn't say that "If you do have those feelings then you're condemned." and we also can't say that Jesus died to fulfill the law, we dont have to follow it anymore. Those who want to worhip God have to worship Him how? as Jesus said in John 4:24? so since we know from leviticus 18:22 that God doesn't approve of sexual relationships with men. We wouldn't want to displease Him. Another related scripture is Mark 8:34. How will we follow Jesus if we're doing something that displeases his Father?

Samuel Marcus Brown said...

Anonymous,

Thank you for taking out the time to view this site. I realize that after being told all of your life... and the constant programming of the traditional interpretations of the scriptures on the subject of homosexuality has been a total negative and self loathing experience. My burden is to see people like you come outside of that traditional box (mindset) of the interpretations of the scriptures on the subject matter of homosexuality and to understand those scriptures with clarity and illumination with the love of Christ. Staying in that traditional self loathing mind set will always take you back to the traditional Laws of the old covenant before Jesus Christ and the New Covenant. Homosexuality is not sin, sexual abuse is sin.

No one who truly loves themself and has a real relationship with Christ (serving him with their whole heart in spirit and in truth) will abuse themself physically or sexually.

We all have to deny ourselves daily of our sinful nature and seek God for his love and his peace to abide in our hearts.

The Captain said...

I strongly disagree.

Anonymous said...

Let me ask you a couple of questions based on your first point of the law no longer being valid because of the death of Christ.
1. Is incest a sin?
2. Is bestiality a sin?
3. Is adultery a sin?
4. Is sacrificing our children as a burnt offering to any god a sin?

Son of a Bishop said...

Anonymous,
Thank you for your response. I will answer your questions with questions:

Is it a sin eat ham?

Is it a sin to eat shrimp or catfish?

Is it a sin to stone your disobedient child?

Is it a sin to own other people as property?

Is it a sin to eat a dead animal that was killed by the side of the road?

Is it a sin to take an eye for an eye and a toothe for toothe which was lawful in the Mosaic law, however Jesus spoke against it.

Is it a sin if I don't slay a goat as a offering to the Lord and sprinkle its blood around on the altar?
It is not the Will of Christ to follow the law of Moses?
"Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." (Gal.5:3,4).