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Tuesday, February 23, 2010

JESUS ADDRESSED HOMOSEXUALITY?


JESUS ADDRESSED HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE SAME CHAPTER OF MARRIAGE?
Matthew 19:3-12 (King James Version)

3The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
The Testimony Of Jesus - Our Lord
1. Eunuchs so born from their mother’s womb. These eunuchs, according to Jesus, were born that way. They did not make a personal choice to be eunuchs and they were not physically castrated by men. Some Christians believe these men were homosexual eunuchs.

2. Eunuchs made so by men via physical castration. These eunuchs were physically castrated and could not consummate marriage.
3. Eunuchs who made a personal choice to be eunuchs, by abstaining from marriage, for the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus distinguishes the third class of eunuchs, who made a choice to be eunuchs, from the first class, who did not make a choice to be eunuchs. According to Jesus, born eunuchs are exempt from the Adam and Eve style, heterosexual marriage paradigm. The common traditionalist tendency is to read into that exemption that all eunuchs must therefore be celibate, an assertion Jesus never makes.
Rick Brentlinger,
You can learn much more from this very scripturally sound profound teacher of faith and glean from his website http://www.gaychristian101.com/

What are Eunuchs?
Eunuchs are mentioned throughout the old and new testatments of the bible; yet the bible does not give us much information on what defines a eunuch other than their occupations, duties and assignments. Malik Faris has completed a thorough exaustive study on eunuchs:

Malik Faris has been researching the subject of eunuchs and ancient conceptions of sex and gender identity since 1991: The innately and exclusively homosexual men of the ancient world inhabited the category of eunuchs. What we moderns think of as a eunuch, namely a castrated man, was simply an artificially manufactured homosexual.

Natural and man-made eunuchs co-existed as distinct categories for at least a thousand years, from the first-reported mass castrations about 600 BCE until 400 CE." The willingness to engage in homosexual activity (particularly intergenerationally) was widespread among men in the ancient Mediterranean region. Women and boys were considered equally tempting sex objects for those whom we would call heterosexual men.

However, the ancients did differentiate based on an unwillingness or incapacity for heterosexual sex. Certain men were known to fundamentally lack arousal for sex with women, and men of this kind were distinguished from the majority of ordinary men on that basis. The innately and exclusively homosexual men of the ancient world inhabited the category of eunuchs. What we moderns think of as a eunuch, namely a castrated man, was simply an artificially manufactured homosexual.

You can learn more from this elaborate study/thesis conducted by Malik Faris.http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/thesis.htm

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11 comments:

D. Matt said...

Sam,
This was very interesting reading. I had heard of eunuchs, but I didn’t know what they were. This shed much light on the subject for me. Thanks for making me less ignorant about eunuchs!!!! I love learning new things. This is such a great website consistantly!!!! The visuals as well & the reading material is very very good!!!

Thanks for sharing!

D.Matt

kking40822 said...

This was interesting. I would like to research this translation.

JG, III said...

Samuel:

Excellent post.

In my twenties, while going through my soul searching the Holy Spirit brought that scripture in Matthew into my life and held on to it. It was the Holy Spirit who said to me that Eunuchs were gay men…I didn’t even question it. It so revived my soul that I never turned back.

In Isaiah 56:6-7:

6 And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD
to serve him,
to love the name of the LORD,
and to worship him,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold fast to my covenant-
7 these I will bring to my holy mountain
and give them joy in my house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and sacrifices
will be accepted on my altar;
for my house will be called
a house of prayer for all nations."
There has been a systemic way the early Christians have attempted to write away all aspects of homosexuality, African influences and women.
In conversation with a theologian friend of mine who I include in this email just to chime in, is the importance of the black gay male to the black church even today. In Acts, it was an Ethiopian eunuch who accepted Christ and brought Christianity to Africa , even before it hit the larger European continent.
It’s important from strategic standpoint the role and function of the eunuch throughout history and the spiritual evolution of the human species. The dominant culture has for centuries attempted to write us out of its history, thus insinuating our insignificance.
Just go through the whole Bible and check out the role of the eunuch (i.e., in Esther, doing her hair making her beautiful for the King, in Genesis 37:36 Potiphar, one of Pharaoh’s officials in some translations said that he was a eunuch of Pharaoh’s, clearly if he saw Joseph who was good looking in appearance he did what any full blooded homosexual would do in power, gather him another boy. As you can see some Christians who have a problem with a high official being a eunuch and over an army. One of the three Hebrew boys in Daniel was a eunuch.
JG, III

Son of a Bishop said...

Thank you for escalating the conversation to another level in sharing your personal testimony and experience concerning the words that Jesus spoke regarding eunuchs.

What a very powerful and profound statement of truth:
"It’s important from strategic standpoint the role and function of the eunuch throughout history and the spiritual evolution of the human species. The dominant culture has for centuries attempted to write us out of its history, thus insinuating our insignificance."

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Joseph said...

24 minutes ago Just wanted to say that slavery isn't wrong. Slaves got paid and but the mistreatment was. We are slaves but we don't experience the injustice that was displayed before. So, slavery isn't wrong. Homo sexuality is spoken about in 1 Corinthian 6:9 and 2 Timothy 3:2. God loves you and i'm sure you study and you have a great lineage but the reality is that OUR SINS keep us from God. No matter if you're a liar, murderer, backbiter, or even homosexual. It says they keep you out of the kingdom. Also Galatians 5:16 say they that walk in the spirit will not fulfill the lust of the flesh,ie your desires and feelings etc. Thats why he said to mortify yourselfs or deny and kill the thoughts and desires that you have so that God has a clean vessell to use and nothing gets in the way. Not saying that i don't have desires to fornicate or anything like that but i can't indulge just because i'm justified by faith.

Son of a Bishop said...

You're right about slavery in the bible;however Colonial Christians abused scripture to uphold USA slavery just as the Fundamentlist Christian abuse scripture to enslave & uphold their prejudice &bigotry against homosexuals;now thats wrong &offensive to God. Please read through these comments. When interpreted correctly KJV (those scriptures) they do not speak to homosexuality.
Joseph, 1 Cororinthians 6:9 (King James Version) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Greek translation for effeminate is malaokois which is a male prostitute which does not = homosexuality. Greek translation of Abusers of themselves with mankind =arsenokoitai Greek scholars don't know the meaning however some believe that Paul was referring to the customers of “the effeminate call boys.” My reference is Strongs Exaustive Concordance of the Bible Based on King James Version which includes Greek and Hebrew dictionaries.

The dangerous and scary part of what the anti-homosexual Christian Fundamentalist have done? They've literally re-written the bible to fit their anti-homosexual biases, they have changed the definitions of certain keywords throughout the King James Version of the Bible &have re-written their interpretation and still call it the holy bible; just read almost any other version of those man made bibles and see what they have done with those certain key words and key scriptures. Your innate sexuality (heterosexual or homosexual)is not what is sinful it is indeed the deeds of our flesh that you must mortify. I am NOT at all trying to justify sin. It is traditional man made religion that has identified and misinterpreted scripture to call homosexuality sin.

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